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Can you believe this stuff?

I've heard sooo much 'falseness' about this man that I don't watch his videos..

Scripture says an 'adultress nation' seeks after a sign...

We're to live by 'faith', not 'sight.'

Kundalini spirit!

Carmela wrote:Kundalini spirit!

\Care to share what this spirit is supposed to be? Never heard of it.

Years ago, the church I belonged to was involved in what we called a "Deliverance Ministry". It didn't last more than a couple years because it can be a very harmful thing for a church and a pastor. However, when certain women in the church, acted like the woman in the video, one of us would take them out of the church. These "possessed" people had a phenomenal knowledge of the Word (as does satan) but they ended up being nothing but great time wasters. No one was ever actually "delivered", by the way. It was all just an evil "game".

Antics like this are just satan's way of getting people off the narrow path. Those pastors who buy into it (as false "promoters" or sincere "deliverers") put themselves at great spiritual and physical (and sometimes, legal) risk.

janlyn wrote:Years ago, the church I belonged to was involved in what we called a "Deliverance Ministry". It didn't last more than a couple years because it can be a very harmful thing for a church and a pastor. However, when certain women in the church, acted like the woman in the video, one of us would take them out of the church. These "possessed" people had a phenomenal knowledge of the Word (as does satan) but they ended up being nothing but great time wasters. No one was ever actually "delivered", by the way. It was all just an evil "game".

Antics like this are just satan's way of getting people off the narrow path. Those pastors who buy into it (as false "promoters" or sincere "deliverers") put themselves at great spiritual and physical (and sometimes, legal) risk.

I have absolutly NO use for so called deliverance ministeries. They spend more time binding this and supposedly casting out semons from believers than actually having anything to do with God. They see a demon under every rock and spend more time and energy on Satan than God.
Years ago there was a couple in the church I was attending that claimed to be called into the deliverance ministry and they had so many gullable people in our sunday school departments comming to their house and they would sit them in a chair to run them through their deliverance service. These folks believed there was a demon for everything. Once they had a water pipe break in their house and claimed it was a demon. Their are to many people who have no spiritual base and are easily decieved by these morons pushing that stuff.
As far as their being "special" called out people to have the ability to cast out demons there is no Spiritual gift of exercisom. You don't need a priest, a preacher or any other leader to do it. Jesus sent out disciples and they had authority to do this there were more than the 12 apostles. Any obedient spirit filled believer has this authority in Jesus name.

Well, our church's ministry was a bit different than that Don. To say anymore would be to defend what we did so I will just say we were naive, but God was gracious and merciful toward us. However, the pastor and church ended up being sued by a woman with multiple personalities. In the end, I think it was a scam on the part of her and her husband to get attention and make money.

For the most part, I agree with your sentiments Don.