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Psalms and Proverbs?

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Psalms and Proverbs?

Postby Remnant » 22 Feb 2010, 16:22

Proverbs and Psalms are Wisdom books. They are not to be taken as absolute rules. These books are not God's wisdom.
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Re: Psalms and Proverbs?

Postby WKUHilltopper » 22 Feb 2010, 18:25

Remnant wrote: These books are not God's wisdom.


Is this what's floating around these days? What is wisdom then if it doesn't come from God?
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Re: Psalms and Proverbs?

Postby Jeani » 22 Feb 2010, 19:21

'All' parts of the Bible is God's wisdom...

Psalms is what God has done in the past; what He will do in the future; and the need for God in the immediate present with a recognition of His sovereignty and goodness.

Proverbs is comparison or contrast which some important truth is set forth.

The virtue in this book are the pursuit of wisdom...
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Re: Psalms and Proverbs?

Postby Remnant » 22 Feb 2010, 20:25

Proverbs and Psalms are Wisdom books. They are not to be taken as absolute rules. These books are not God's wisdom.


This was stated by a person on another forum and Religion Board. It reveals a lot about this individual!

Scripture was given by inspiration of God and profitable for Doctrine, Reproof and correction. For someone to say this is denying that Proverbs and Psalms is inspired by God and it also denies the wisdom of God in these Scriptures.

I will respond to this person with a reproof and correction, but would like to get all here input and thoughts. This individual claims to be a bible teacher and Christian for over 50 years.
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Re: Psalms and Proverbs?

Postby Jeani » 22 Feb 2010, 20:43

Doesn't surprise me, Frank....

Who 'truly' studies the Bible 'scripture by scripture.'

Not very many...

For the Lord gives WISDOM;
From His mouth come knowledge and understanding. Pro. 26

Proverbs:

1:7-19 Wisdom's foundation: the fear of the Lord

1:20-33 Wisdom's warning

2:1-22 Wisdom delivers from evil

3:1~7:27 The rewards of wisdom

8 In praise of wisdom

9 Eternal wisdom praised

10~ Wisdom and the Fear of God as Contrasted with Folly and Sin
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Re: Psalms and Proverbs?

Postby WKUHilltopper » 22 Feb 2010, 20:53

Remnant wrote: This individual claims to be a bible teacher and Christian for over 50 years.



Wow! Just wow!! He doesn't see the symbolic references in Psalms or Proverbs about Jesus either? These folks are frustrating to me...but it's hard to believe, after 50 years, he can't see the infinite and authoritative nature of Psalms and Proverbs. He can't be truthful--if God can create the universe and the world by merely speaking it, He's certainly big enough and powerful enough to control what goes into the Bible--specifically in Psalms and Proverbs!
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Re: Psalms and Proverbs?

Postby Remnant » 22 Feb 2010, 20:58

WKUHilltopper wrote:
Remnant wrote: This individual claims to be a bible teacher and Christian for over 50 years.



Wow! Just wow!! He doesn't see the symbolic references in Psalms or Proverbs about Jesus either? These folks are frustrating to me...but it's hard to believe, after 50 years, he can't see the infinite and authoritative nature of Psalms and Proverbs. He can't be truthful--if God can create the universe and the world by merely speaking it, He's certainly big enough and powerful enough to control what goes into the Bible--specifically in Psalms and Proverbs!


This is a Women. Not that it makes any difference. It is still apostasy. Sometimes people will twist scripture and I believe this to be the case, to justify ones on actions. This came after another individual quoted scriptures from Proverbs dealing with a fool.
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Re: Psalms and Proverbs?

Postby Remnant » 23 Feb 2010, 22:20

:heye I really would like to see and hear more input on this. :smi
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Re: Psalms and Proverbs?

Postby WKUHilltopper » 24 Feb 2010, 18:26

Remnant wrote::heye I really would like to see and hear more input on this. :smi



I would ask her--if Proverbs and Psalms is just a bunch of words--and don't reflect the Word of God, then what else in the Bible is "wrong"? And how does she "pick and choose" which is right or wrong? Which is from God and which isn't?

God is God. When we start creating "exceptions" to His Word or exemptions to the Supremacy of His Word--or deny He has no influence in the Scriptures, then we're no better than the Babylonians. When this happens we're creating a god in our imagine, a god of our liking. A god that doesn't exist. It's the same old story.

This drivel from post-modernistic dimwits sets me off...it's probably better that I'm not in the "debate"! hahah There's no absolutes--and truth is a moving target. Right! How good would God be if He changed conditions on one all the time? Praise God He is the same today as He was yesterday!! We'd never know how to find salvation then! God's never changing will and consistency is a BLESSING TO MAN. We never have to guess what God requires--because it NEVER CHANGES. Many people have no idea what a blessing and how caring this is!!

This is what the post-modernist dingbat can't grasp--they don't want to--they look for "loop holes" to placate their conscience as they know deep in their hearts, they're living in rebellion to God. So they think this nonsense will salve it and this "phony ignorance" provides them some "protection". They think when they stand before God--Oh, I was confused. Sorry--no cigar! Romans indicates the law of God is written in our hearts and people are WILLFULLY IGNORANT. It's a scam they're playing with themselves--a losing bet.

Frank, not sure if that helps--I tend to get on a soap box and get off on another tangent. Hahah--I blame it on my blood sugar.

Maybe cut and paste her comments in here so we can digest some of the "points" she's trying to make. That way we can take a more direct approach to the commentary.
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Re: Psalms and Proverbs?

Postby LdyinChrist » 25 Feb 2010, 07:22

It is still apostasy.


Apostasy is rejection of God's truth.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom....

Christ the wisdom of God...

Christ the word of God...became flesh...

This why it is so imperative to know the things that are critical for salvation....rejection of them is COMPLETE APOSTASY!!

Sanctify them by thy truth, thy word is truth.
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