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Preachers Who Don't Believe - The Scandal of Apostate Pastor

One World Religion and other false teachings including the Falling Away from biblical truths, Unbiblical movements, Misguided Shepherds, False Prophets, Etc.

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Preachers Who Don't Believe - The Scandal of Apostate Pastor

Postby Remnant » 22 Mar 2010, 18:15

Preachers Who Don't Believe - The Scandal of Apostate Pastors
By R. Albert Mohler, Jr.|Christian Post Guest Columnist

Are there clergy who don't believe in God? That is the question posed by a new report that is certain to receive considerable attention - and rightly so. Few church members are likely to be disinterested in whether their pastor believes in God.

The study was conducted by the Center for Cognitive Studies at Tufts University, under the direction of Daniel C. Dennett and Linda LaScola. Dennett, of course, is one of the primary figures in the "New Atheism" - the newly aggressive and influential atheist movement that has gained a considerable hearing among the intellectual elites and the media.

Dennett is a cognitive scientist whose book, Breaking the Spell, suggests that belief in God must have at one point served an important evolutionary purpose, granting an evolutionary advantage to those who had some belief in an afterlife as compared to humans without such a belief. The reality of death, Dennett surmises, might well have been the precipitating factor. In order to make life meaningful in the face of death (and thus encourage reproduction), Dennett suggests that primitive humans invented the idea of God and the afterlife. Now, he argues, we have no more need of such primitive beliefs.

Interestingly, Dennett also proposes a new interpretation of theological liberalism. Noting that many modern people claim to be Christians while holding to virtually no specific theological content, Dennett suggests that their mode of faith should not be described as "belief," but rather as "believing in belief."

Given Dennett's own atheistic agenda, we can rightly assume that he would be thrilled to see Christian ministers and believers abandon the faith. Indeed, the New Atheists have made this a stated aim. Thus, this new research report, "Preachers Who Are Not Believers," should be read within that framework. Nevertheless, it must be read. This report demands the attention of anyone concerned with the integrity of the Christian church and the Christian faith.

Dennett and LaScola undertook their project with the goal of looking for unbelieving pastors and ministers who continue to serve their churches in "secret disbelief." Their "small and self-selected" sample of ministers represents a microcosm of the theological collapse at the heart of many churches and denominations.

In their report, Dennett and LaScola present case studies of five unbelieving ministers, three from liberal denominations ("the liberals") and two from conservative denominations ("the literals").

Wes, a Methodist, lost his confidence in the Bible while attending a liberal Christian college and seminary. "I went to college thinking Adam and Eve were real people," he explained. Now, he no longer believes that God exists. In his rendering, God is a word that "can be used very expressively in some of my more meditative modes" and "a kind of poetry that is written by human beings."

His church members do not know that he is an atheist, but he explains that they are somewhat liberal themselves. His ministerial colleagues are even more liberal: "They've been de-mythologized, I'll say that. They don't believe Jesus rose from the dead literally. They don't believe Jesus was born of a virgin. They don't believe all those things that would cause a big stir in their churches."

Rick, a campus minister for the United Church of Christ, perhaps the most liberal Protestant denomination, was an agnostic in college and seems to have lost all belief by the time he graduated from seminary. He chose ordination in the UCC because it required "no forced doctrine." Even as he graduated from seminary, he knew, "I'm not going to make it in a conventional church." He knew he could not go into a church and teach his own theological views, based on Paul Tillich and Rudolf Bultmann. He did not believe in the doctrinal content of the Christian faith from the beginning of his ministry. "I did not believe the traditional things even then."

He does not believe "all this creedal stuff" about the incarnation of Christ or the need for salvation, but he remained in the ministry because, "These are my people, this is the context in which I work, these are the people that I know." In the pulpit, his mode is to talk as if he does believe, because "as long as ... you are talking about God and Jesus and the Bible, that's what they want to hear. You're just phrasing it in a way that makes sense to [them] ... but language is ambiguous and can be heard in different ways."

He doesn't like to call himself an atheist, but: "If not believing in a supernatural, theistic god is what distinguishes an atheist, then I am one too."

Darryl is a Presbyterian who sees himself as a "progressive-minded" pastor who wants to see his kind of non-doctrinal Christianity "given validity in some way." He acknowledges that he is more a pantheist than a theist, and thinks that many of the more educated members of his church hold to the same liberal beliefs as his own. And those beliefs (or unbeliefs) are stated clearly: "I reject the virgin birth. I reject substitutionary atonement. I reject the divinity of Jesus. I reject heaven and hell in the traditional sense, and I am not alone."

Amazingly, Darryl is candid about the fact that he remains in the ministry largely for financial reasons. It is how he provides for his family. If he openly espoused his beliefs, "I may be burning bridges in terms of my ability to earn a living this way."

Continued here: http://www.christianpost.com/article/20 ... page2.html
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Re: Preachers Who Don't Believe - The Scandal of Apostate Pastor

Postby JWayne » 22 Mar 2010, 18:45

Are there clergy who don't believe in God?
Absolutely. This would be
no different than Judas, who walked and talked daily with Jesus by his side. There
are those who will never accept the truth.
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Re: Preachers Who Don't Believe - The Scandal of Apostate Pastor

Postby Carmela » 23 Mar 2010, 09:49

Unbelieving "pastors" are a plague in this country today. The great falling away couldn't happen without them, however, so they are in place for God's greater plan. It's so sad and hard for us to understand people who are so close to knowing the truth and yet deny and reject it.
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Re: Preachers Who Don't Believe - The Scandal of Apostate Pastor

Postby Servant » 23 Mar 2010, 20:41

wow..... can you believe an Episcopal pastor (priest) not believing in God, while in the middle of communion??? WHAT is wrong with the sheep!?!?
Just in it for the money, and a way to make a living? Did anyone tell him that playing 'pretend' is for the kiddies? :rifl
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Re: Preachers Who Don't Believe - The Scandal of Apostate Pastor

Postby open door » 24 Mar 2010, 20:22

There is supposed to be a "calling" from God for someone to preach the Word. How dare these people do it just as a job; I'm so sick of them - they may "profess" Christ in words only, but they don't "possess" Him.
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