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Do You Know Him?

Postby Remnant on Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:28 pm

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Romans 10:9-10

"Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;" Acts 3:19 KJV

Jesus said He is the only way you can receive eternal life. The Bible says you must repent of your sins and receive Him as your Lord and Savior. If you don't you will be condemned for eternity:

"He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." John 3:18


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Postby sweetsurrender on Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:10 pm

Frank, Don't you have to repent of all your sins when you become a Christian? And then don't you have to learn to love Him and a few other things stay a Christian? I know when I surrendered my life to Christ, I did it because I felt conviction in my heart, kinda like the "burning in my bosom" the Mormon's talk about. But now, I always have a hunger for more of God and I hope I never lose that. What about some of my friends and my husband, who don't express that same feeling, although they say they are Christians?
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Postby Remnant on Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:24 pm

sweetsurrender wrote:Frank, Don't you have to repent of all your sins when you become a Christian? And then don't you have to learn to love Him and a few other things stay a Christian? I know when I surrendered my life to Christ, I did it because I felt conviction in my heart, kinda like the "burning in my bosom" the Mormon's talk about. But now, I always have a hunger for more of God and I hope I never lose that. What about some of my friends and my husband, who don't express that same feeling, although they say they are Christians?


The word repent in it self means to have a change of heart and mind about sin. The old things that you use to love, you no longer care for.


That is what happens through the spiritual rebirth of the born again believer. John 3 Behold old things have passed away behold all things become new. Another thing that happens through repentance that leads to salvation is that we no longer a slave to sin but become slaves to righteousness.

I can't speak for your friends or husband but if their has not been a change of mind and a change of heart about sin and if they are still involved in things that they have always been that are sinful, then their is a good chance that they are not saved.
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Postby Jeani on Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:14 am

Sweetsurrender,

These scriptures came to my mind:

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John 3:

There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews.

This man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, "Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him."

Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

Nicodemus said to Him, "How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?"

Jesus answered, Most assuredly, I say to you unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.

That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Do not marvel that I said to you, "You must be born again.'

The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit."

Nicodemus answered and said to Him, "How can these things be?"

Jesus answered and said to him, "Are you the teacher of Israel, and do not know these things?

Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness.

If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things?

No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man, who is in heaven.

And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up.

That whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that who ever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.

but he who does the truth comes to the light that his deeds may be clearly seen that they have been done in God.

When you accept Christ as your personal Savior, you have a 'change' heart.

We are saved base what Christ did on the cross for our sins because we are not good enough to earn salvation.

Ephesians 2:8

For by grace you are saved through faith not of yourselves, it is a gift of God.

not of 'works', lest anyone should boast.

We CANNOT work our way to heaven because God gives us 'faith' as a free gift to be saved.

Hopes this helps.
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Postby sweetsurrender on Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:34 am

Yes, it did really help. Really helped! Soooo. . . maybe Norm just doesn't really know that you have to become a Christian, but like I used to think, everyone is a Christian except the Jews maybe. :roll: It is hard to talk spiritual things to him. I think I will just let God take care of it or pray that he will be taken under someones wing at church. Thanx for all those verses and the words you spoke. I have printed it out. :D
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Postby Jeani on Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:43 am

Sweetsurrender,

I accepted the Lord at 15 years old, but I didn't always 'live' totally the Christian life.

Yes, I was 'saved', but backslidded because of lack of Bible knowledge.

I didn't come from a Christian home, but a very disfuntional home.

So when I met my husband at 22 years old, I didn't know that '2 Corinthians 6:14' existed.

Do not be 'unequally yoked' together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness.


Because of God's grace, I had a 'good' marriage, but not one that was consider 'one.'

My first concern was for my three boys to be saved so I took them to church by myself.

They came to know the Lord, and my eight year old would witness to my husband.

I would ask my husband every Sunday if he wanted to come to church, but I 'never' pressure him.

My church started to 'pray' for his salvation.

At 33 years old, my husband realize that he wanted the experience I had with the Lord.

He accepted the Lord then, and I marriage became 'one in the Lord.'

No marriage will ever be perfect because we still have sin in our lives, but we have been married for 32 years.

Yes, prayer and sharing with your loved ones the love of Christ, can bring many to Christ.

Jesus doesn't 'pressure' us to seek Him, but He 'loves' us, and gently reveals Himself to us.

Just looking at 'creation' , and 'order in life' should be enough to bring many to the Lord.

PERFECT like Christ!

Thank you Lord for saving my soul!
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Postby Misfit on Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:31 am

Like Jeani, it took a long time for me to come to know the Christian experience.
I have a lovely friend who tole me to pray that God would teach me His truth. That was in the mid to late 80's.
I still ask God to teach me His truth. When I disagree with what someone else believes I find this is still a necessary prayer. The other person's belief could be wrong, but so could mine, so it is necessary that the Holy Spirit takes me in hand and continues to refine the Word in me and my life.
Becoming a Christian is a step by step, and day by day experience. We become a Christian instantly when we tell God that we agree with Him that Christ is His Son who paid for our sins and that we want Him as our Saviour, but the walk is not instantaneous, and must be worked at to learn and apply so that we can 'mature' in the Word, and experience.
It is mature Christians who keep this nation free, so we need more of us.
Goodbye all. It has been nice posting with you.
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Postby sweetsurrender on Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:48 pm

Thank you all for sharing with me. I think Norm is learning a lot just like I am because he continues to go to church with me. I pray it will eventually just come on like a light bulb that he may need to actually do something to become a Christian, or at least realize that he needs more than he has now. Your testimonies were interesting.
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Postby first love on Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:21 pm

I was saved as a child of about 8. I grew up in a Christian home, with a single Mom. Dad died when I was 6.

Our home was strick, no hugs and talk. Mom worked very hard to provide for us four children. She would abide little from us girls. My
brother was a bit different. We all went to Church as a family. My dad
was saved and baptised about 6 weeks before he died. He was a grown
man with four kids. I am so thankful he was saved.

I have loved the Lord my whole life, but I have also failed Him so badly. It really grieves me to think of the sins I have done, knowing what I did know, but somehow, I watched other people and could not really find my way to live a seperated life totally.

When I was around 30 I really wanted to make sure my salvation so I read, prayed and asked God. I am now sure that I gave my heart to God as a child the best I could, and trusted Him for my salvation.

I made another profession of faith at age 14 and was baptised again trying to make my life right in Him, but I now know that I am saved and that God has always been there for me, no matter where I went or what I did.

I was always in Church until about four years ago, now I can't find one
where we live here.

We always had our friends in the Church, but I always longed to talk of the Lord, and Bible and what He had done. So the Lord gave me a friend.
It was strange looking back.

They are a couple where we went to Church. She worked at the same school my husband taught, and he ran an A.C. business.
We used to sit around the table and he and I enjoyed talking about the Lord so much, hubby and firend would talk of school.
Sometimes they would join in, but mostly listened. It was the best fellowship I have ever had around the feet of Jesus.

We traveled together, ate together, the four of us. It was really nice.
But all things have to change and move around.

We have sinced moved and our old friends are both not well. But we see them some and it is still wonderful.

My hubby is saved, but not a talker. He is a yes and no man. Always has been. But after over 48 years of marriage we can nearly read the others mind. He loves the Lord also.
Faith is being sure of what we hope for
and certain of what we do not see.
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Postby Misfit on Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:45 pm

God has such a wonderful way of furnishing our needs!
first love, I also had a friend who loved the Lord, and I sure do miss her, and the sweet fellowship we had in Christ.
Goodbye all. It has been nice posting with you.
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Postby Christy on Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:17 am

Firstlove, how wonderful it must be to have a 48 year marriage!! :D Ive only been married for 10 and thought that was a long time. I hope mine doesnt get to the point where he can read my mind....especially when he makes messes. ;)
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Postby guitarman on Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:54 pm

:fish I was a catholic my mom was catholic and my dad was a penticostal so this was hard for me cause i did go thru the catholic way but i did backslide. I was born again in 89 in Wichita Ks. As a baptist but to me there is only 1 GOD know matter what faith you are. As for people sayin the Jews killed Jesus We all killed Jesus for he died for all of our sins. And as someone quoted Jews are not christians ??? i feel that you are very wrong for those who recieve Christ as their saviour is a christian. I should know this because i am a jew so they say you see my last name is Jobe. And Job was a jew in the book of Job. May GOD Bless everyone in this world.
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Postby Remnant on Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:02 pm

guitarman wrote::fish I was a catholic my mom was catholic and my dad was a penticostal so this was hard for me cause i did go thru the catholic way but i did backslide. I was born again in 89 in Wichita Ks. As a baptist but to me there is only 1 GOD know matter what faith you are. As for people sayin the Jews killed Jesus We all killed Jesus for he died for all of our sins. And as someone quoted Jews are not christians ??? i feel that you are very wrong for those who recieve Christ as their saviour is a christian. I should know this because i am a jew so they say you see my last name is Jobe. And Job was a jew in the book of Job. May GOD Bless everyone in this world.


Lenny, Good to see you posting and joining our humble family. Please post often and sorry I did not get a chance to talk to you more in Tulsa. I hope and pray Becky is doing fine. God Bless you my friend!
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Re: Do You Know Him?

Postby JWayne on Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:34 am

I was saved at the age of 11, and was so full of the spirit, that I could hardly keep it controlled. I was on fire for the next 5 years, doing whatever I could to please God.

My wife and I met in August of '75. Shortly after in September my mother passed away, and her father had passed away just a few months earlier. As we dated for the next year, I began to get further and further away from church. We would go occasionally, but it seemed that there was always something better to be done.

We married in July of '76, and by this time we were pretty much withdrawn from the church. We thought we were ready to face the world on our own. My dad was pushing me to find a better job than the one I had at the feed store, so I went to work in a local factory, My wife was working at the local "shirt factory", and then soon she also went to work at one of the local factories. Being that we both worked the 3-12 shift, it was so easy not to get up and go to church on Sunday mornings.

After 8 years in the factory, I was laid off, and the factory which my wife was working in was shutting down. I found a job in a convinent store working the midnight shift. Now it was even easier not to have to get up early on Sunday morning. Just a few months later, I went to work at another one with a slight raise, working 45 hrs a week.

One afternoon, one of the regulars, asked me if I wanted a job as an assistant manager for him at Long John Silvers. I had no experience but what the hey, it was more money. I did very well working for LJS, earned a lot of awards, got to do a lot of traveling, made a name for my self, and continues to make more money. I worked for LJS for 15 yrs (all along we never attended church, because I was too busy, and of course Sunday's were a big day and I always had to work).

In late 2000, I was so burnt out, things were really getting bad with the company. We had been through 6 buy-outs and every time we would loose some benefits. So I went looking, I was getting no where and it was time to move on.

January 2001, I went to work for Cracker Barrel. Wow nice raise, did take a demotion from General Manager at LJS, to assistant but was making lots more, but I soon found out, I was in the ride of my life.

Cracker Barrel was 4 times harder than LJS. October 2002, I ended up in the hospital with a 95% blockage, and ended up with 4 stents. I forgot to mention that while I was training with CB, (10 week boot camp) I got sick with my gall bladder and had to have surgery, our house burnt, one of my bil's died of esophagus cancer, and a retarded man was trying to harish my 12 yo daughter while I was out of town.
We would soon be moving away with my job to another city where we knew no one.

After having the stents, I continued to have angina attacks and was in and out of the hospital every time I turned around. Nov. 2003, depression hit and hit hard. Between the pressures at work, 12-15 hrs 6 days a week, and still having heart problems, problems just kept building.

Finally after Christmas and the first of the year, things seemed to be getting better. The angina was lessening, the depression was getting better and my district manager was grooming me for a promotion.

I took the promotion, which meant lots more money, so we packed up and moved to Atlanta. This to say the least was the worst mistake of my life. The DM had told me so many lies about the store I was going to, which just happened to be the worst store in the company, had had 6-7 managers in the past year.

I went at it full force, but it was eating me alive. My depression reared back, worse than before. My family was so home sick. The kids were not happy in their schools, where we lived they had no friends.

On Aug 20th, I was demoted back to assistant manager. This was on a Friday, so my DM told me to take the weekend off and the report to a new store on Monday. As I was getting out of the van at home, my wife come walking out with the phone in hand and told me it was my dad. My step mother had just passed away. So we packed up and headed home for her funeral. When I finally got back the next Wed. my new store was 1 1/2 hrs away from where we lived on the other side of Atlanta. I did this for several months, as things seemed to constantly be getting worse.

Finally in April 2005, I was transferred back to Tennessee, but the store was again 1 1/2 hours away from home. I drove this for the next several months, until finally an opening came up in a town 30 minutes from home. So in June, I made yet another transfer.

By this time I was so burnt out, I was fighting a terrible battle with depression, and the job was just plain horrible. The management team in this store was horrible. They were the laziest people I have ever seen in my life. In Sept. I had a nervous breakdown and was forced (told to admit myself or would be admitted by the law) to go in the hospital. I spent 7 days, in the hospital. When I got out I was better than I was when I went in but I still was not ready to face the world, especially through Cracker Barrel.

I went back to work, and talk about a struggle to keep my sanity. Two weeks later, every thing came to a boil, and I walked out and quit my job of nearly 5 years. Depression was winning it's battle over me.

For the next 5 months I was without a job, could not draw unemployment, (wife had not worked for yrs), all I could thing of ending my life. It was not worth it anymore. Then in March 2006, I went to work for Fred's (Dollar Store) as assistant manager. Fortunately this store was only 10 minutes from home.

Come April, the DM came to me offering promotion to General Manager in another store, where the GM was being demoted. This was not really a good time as there were still so many things that were not going right. My dad was in the hospital (out of town of course) for rectal bleeding, which turned out they had to remove half of his colon. Then the next day he suffered a major stroke.

I told the DM that I was not ready to step back up into the manager position, but he would not have it any other way. So I took the promotion and once again was stuck with one of the worst stores in the company.

Late June, the depression was building and building. I hated my job. All of the issues with my dad, my other health problems were taking a huge toll. On July 17th, I ended back in the hospital, and this time was there for nearly two weeks. Fred's fired me the day I went into the hospital, and I have not worked since.

I know this has been very long, but there is a point to it, and that is that all this time, I was trying to face the world myself. God had been put on the back burner. As I look back, I now see and know that He was there the whole time. He was there the night I was driving home from work, (with it raining so hard I could hardly see the road) and came so close to making sure I did not make the u coming off the interstate, and all of the other times when I wanted to take the box cutter and slice my wrists, the times I was driving down a busy two way highway, thinking about swerving into the other lane into oncoming traffic.

But finally after I quit CB, we started going back to church, and I, after being so stubborn and taking the world on myself, I turned my life back over to God, and told Him, the rest was up to Him.

For the past several years we have struggled greatly. We've lost practically everything we've owned. We have lived on food stamps, and our eldest son has given up so much in order to help us. but through it all, the past two and half years were made bearable because we put God back in our lives where He belongs.

God takes care of His children. We may not have all the things we want or the things we think we need, but those things that we need for survival, God gives.

I am living proof that God will never forsake us. And my life I owe to him.
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Re: Do You Know Him?

Postby Remnant on Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:37 am

Wayne, What a great testimony!
If you ever need someone to just talk to or pray with you and your family or just a friend. Please give me a call or email me!

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