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It must be some kind of joke to suggest the United States of America is turning resolutely towards paganism, the antithesis of Christianity—correct? Sadly, this is exactly what appears to be quickly happening to this most Christian of all nations in terms of origin and practice. We see this in our views of government, family, economics, freedom, law and especially religion. We are now presented with a kind modern **** paganus, a modernized version of ancient man. Paganism is defined as:

1.An adherent of a polytheistic religion in antiquity, especially when viewed in contrast to an adherent of a monotheistic religion.
2.A Neopagan.
3.Offensive—a. One who has no religion; b. An adherent of a religion other than Judaism, Christianity, or Islam.
4.A hedonist.

Paganism is a set of beliefs and practices essentially tied to the societies of the ancient world outside Judaism and Christianity. In particular, classical paganism was the worldview of the ancient Greeks and Romans. The revival of these ancient cultures during the Renaissance by way of the ancient writers is the foundation for Humanism. Despite the many high points of ancient classical paganism, these cultures’ values were rejected by the Christian West as utterly at odds with the great standards created by the rise of Christian Europe. This article details how these standards, misunderstood and rejected, are being slowly lost and replaced by unenlightened instincts and more primitive beliefs.






I. The Drift of Modern American Public Policy & Societal Mores

When gay marriage bills pass for the first time in state ballots, it is obvious that a new day has dawned in America. As opposed to the mere evolution of ideas and habits which occurs in every culture, the transition in the US represents a sea-change in beliefs and practice. This change represents a fall back into paganism, which could be argued the default thoughts and ideals of unregenerate mankind. Further, one could directly state that there are two essential worldviews of mankind—the biblical versus pagan.

Paganism therefore rejects biblical revelation of the One God, and an objective definition of truth—replacing it with a regime of superstition, earth worship, polytheism, and radical humanism. The latter is the replacement of any traditional Western idea of religion with rank secularism, however that might attain. An example of the latter would be Marxism with its savage embargo of God, which replaced tradition with a comically inept reign of humanistic pseudo-science, totally rejecting constitutionalism, natural law, and human rights.

It is a fundamental conviction of modern mankind that human society is destined to evolve and that all evolution occurs to positive results. This notion is tied into the prevalent belief that humans evolved and therefore evolution is a fixed and positive reality of human life. Instead, this pernicious notion would be harmful, even if humans were products of Darwinian evolution—because it fatalistically blesses every change without bothering to analyze it. Certainly this is one of the causes of the continuing fall in human happiness in our increasingly confused and contradictory society. These reborn pagan practices all help guide our fall.

II. Ancient Roots of Modern Paganism

Foundation of the West’s Argument Against Paganism

The chief and most devastating arguments against paganism were levied by Christian Roman emperors, and by the ancient Church Fathers. These can be boiled down to a few central principles. First, according to the emperors, paganism rejected God’s rule over mankind. Likewise, according to the Patristic Fathers, essential truth can only be known via revelation—by divine gift to mankind, as opposed to the flawed results of humanistic philosophizing.

Second, since only God knows the truth, only He can deliver this through His Word. So to oppose this, whether by pagan or heretic means is one of the most grievous sins imaginable. The emperors, such as Constantine made proposing such pagan falsehoods against the law. Other emperors may have battled back against this mandate, such as Julian the Apostate, but the tide was clear and eventually the Roman Empire became officially Christianized.

The triumph of Christianity against paganism amongst the common people should be seen as the understandable acceptance of a theory of God which was not arbitrary, offering a description of life based upon hope over fear. Also, the Bible gained cachet by presenting a vision of life where all men and women, regardless of status, citizenship, free or slave, all stood on equal footing before God. This powerful idea was the opposite of Roman society. Sadly, rejecting this can only be seen as a lapse from faith back into the abyss of ignorance and certain failure.

III. Chief Doctrines of Reborn Paganism

A. Family

The modern family is in state of siege, on the verge of total destruction. In its place are various entities and unions, many fleeting in nature. Marriage itself as a sacred Christian union is a bygone concept. More interestingly, the very institutions which supported and fed into marriage by way of courtship and dating are today almost extinct. The practice of “hooking up,” being a preliminary sexual exploration before any level of commitment—has inverted the paradigm. The upshot is the old cornerstone of “True Love” being a fixation on a marriage of incorporeal love and total dedication versus all others—essentially unknown in the ancient world—has disappeared. The ancient world with its commonplace prostitution and use of slaves as unfettered *** objects without any rights—regardless of age, gender and used in any manner has been replaced by promiscuity and pornography.

B. Gay Marriage

While gay “marriage” is seen nowhere in ancient history, the seeds of homosexual unions are firmly planted in classical paganism. First, the Greeks were open to the potential for men to have homosexual relations. For example, in one of the most notorious developments in history, homosexual pedophilia was highly developed in ancient Greece. This cult of pederasty was ostensibly used for instruction. Further, homosexual acts by adults were noted in culture and the arts.

Romans also tolerated homosexuality, yet with a twist. Officially, homosexual acts between Roman citizens merited the death penalty. Yet, any *** acts done with a slave, even children, were totally acceptable. This was because slaves were not technically persons under the law. Yet, no ancient society ever allowed homosexuals the right to marry. Further, the Christian theology placing Christ’s relationship to the Church as an analogy to human marriage certainly meant that no straight reading of the Bible could ever condone such an idea. That America now legislates such actions is a powerful statement on our true pagan faith.

C. State Directed Religion

While the American Constitution famously defends the right for unfettered religious belief and expression, modern society is seriously pruning back free religious expression. What is taking its place is a kind of state-approved religious expression which focuses on certain pagan beliefs, such as the deification of nature, the planet (gaia) and the cosmos. Considered the most grievous crime against the modern mind is the prejudiced claim of an exclusive religion or God, especially one whom proscribes certain “sinful” behaviors. This rejection of the biblical code is an acceptance of the ancient pagan standards that tolerated any religion except an exclusive claim which rejected all others.

D. Command Economy

The ancient world had no comprehension of capitalism, its theories being outlined formally by Adam Smith in Wealth of Nations. But it is true that the elements of informal capitalism have existed from time immemorial without being codified. In the ancient world, land was often owned by the government—such as in Egypt. In Rome, the government contracted for “corn,” or grain from which to feed the people. Often this was contracted in foreign climes like Africa. There was an artificial port named, appropriately enough, Portus built expressly in which to land craft laden with grain. The public policy of amassing grain for public use and setting its price, meant to ameliorate famine, was cura annonae, according to Tacitus. While inventive, the government’s direct control of agriculture on such large scale would neither be efficient, nor sustainable. That America is now creating a command economy of health care is a dire sign for the end of the world’s best private medical system.

E. Irrelevance of Private Morality Behind Public Success

In ancient Rome, citizens were not judged by their private lives as much by their achievement of success in two realms—military and politics. Wealth and great fame were also acknowledged. The concept of an admirable inner life was unknown to Romans, according to Florence Dupont in Daily Life in Ancient Rome, describing how Romans were not in the least introspective, but judged themselves exclusively by how others saw them. The goal in the Roman world was glory and a good name, achieved by battlefield bravery and political achievement in the senate and various magistracies.

What mattered in ancient Rome is similar to what is celebrated in modern America—military success, political achievement, overall renown, riches, and being part of a higher status family. But what used to be a fixation with Americans—being how people achieved success and what kind of person they were, how they treat friends, family, and strangers, let alone overall character—no longer matters.

F. Anti-Science

Scientific undertakings in America have become overly politicized and ends-directed until the outcomes of “independent” studies and experiments are now often wholly predictable and fixed. This is much like how ancient Rome used its collegia of priestly groups. For example, when the Romans had a monstra appear, being some kind of natural anomaly, like the birth of a two-headed calf, the senate investigated this by way of their priests. They might ask the Haruspices to investigate the nature of these phenomenon, who would do so by opening an animal and reading its liver. These would then report back to the senate their findings, but it would be up to the senate to decide what it all meant. So pagan politics dominated every other concern, just like today.

F. Nature Worship

One sees a decided development of worship of nature in the modern cult of Gaia, which portrays the earth as a kind of god. Such sentiments are not foreign to ancient societies, which often associated religion with such items as trees, aka sacred groves. For instance, one writer describes Earth First!
and love of trees and nature worship,

Some of today’s environmental movement is clearly a revival of ancient pagan nature worship, exemplified in this video of Earth First members crying out, speaking not only of but to trees, and referring to the forest as a “tabernacle.”

This attitude is plainly seen in the following passages from Ancient Pagan and Modern Christian Symbolism With an Essay on Baal Worship, On The Assyrian Sacred “Grove”:

There is a word of the feminine gender occurring in the Hebrew twenty-four times, viz., Asherah or Asharah; plural, Asharth translated in the Septuagint and Latin vulgate, a tree, or “grove,” in which they have been followed by most modern versions, including the English. This supplies the void, for Asharah may be regarded as another name for the goddess Ashtoreth. What, then, was the Asharah? It was of wood, and of large size; the Jews were ordered to cut it down.

G. One-World Religious System

The dream of a one-world pagan religious system symbolized by the European godhead excepted Judaism and Christianity is alive today. The ancient religious system of Rome and Greece had analogs across the globe in various cultures, whether in Europe, the Indian subcontinent, or various other places. This world system is back via commands against exclusivity, or prohibitions against what were once considered sins. Defy this movement and risk jails or fines, just as ancient Roman authorities attempted to stamp out and kill Christianity for rejecting the state pantheon.

H. World Religion Polytheism Versus Monotheism

One of the great battles between ancient paganism and Christianity was the debate over whether a single, versus multiple deities existed. For example, one of the main reasons Christianity was sanctioned so harshly by the Romans was their insistence that God was of one nature. This disagreed with the state religious system which was pluralistic and committed to bringing in any non-novel foreign deities, already established elsewhere. Interestingly, the most important public policy in ancient Rome was Pax Deorum, or the Peace of the Gods—which directed the leaders to do anything humanly possible to avoid upsetting the gods so as to avoid human tragedy.

This battle was decisively settled when Constantine declared Christianity the state religion. After this such leaders as Emperor Theodosius declared pagan worship a capital offense, with offenders possibly executed. Yet, today in America the Christian church is reeling as multiple cases come down against Believers and church expressions of faith. Any statements seen as exclusive of any other religious traditions, including atheism are harshly put down as non-inclusive. So paganism has returned to America.

I. World Government & Tower of Babel

A fixation on a one-world government which would create a single law applied around the globe by a world court system, also delivering taxation and management of resouces and assets is not a new idea but ancient. The Tower of Babel in Genesis was an example of such an attempt to create a one-world society. This was rejected by Yahweh who caused languages to be multiplied to foment confusion to end the project. Therefore, a commitment to world government cannot be claimed biblical or modern, but merely pagan.

J. Education Goals

While the classical Triumvirate was developed by pagan thinkers, the average Roman did not have access to such first-class education. The vast majority of Romans were plebeians, the poorer class. Only upper class males were trained, with some notable middle class children such as Cicero who were able to advance beyond their class via hard work and genius.

The original American education czar, John Dewey, was certainly a progressive, and many feel a Marxist. His goal was to train children through experience, not via rote memory or immersion in classical texts as was the original American pedagogy. It is because of Dewey’s ideas that American education became a study in advanced mediocrity, turning out generations of students simply not equipped to debate, analyze arguments, or study texts with any precision. In other words, perfect pawns for the state, representing the ancient Roman description of a few elites directing the masses. Writes one educator,

A detailed examination of Dewey’s relationship to Marxism can explain a great deal about the form and content of modern schools. Dewey found Marxism useful, if not indispensable, in the formulation of his educational theories…

K. Belief in Universal Law

It is part of leftist modern political theory that there must be a body of world legislators and courts to standardize a global law, which presumes a viable world body of law fully applicable in any scenario or setting. This idea was in fact first declared by the ancient Roman Stoics who declared a law which applied universally, such as demanded now with the United Nations.

Yet the greatest theory of law in modern history, Anglo-American common law, is decidedly not a claim of universal jurisprudence but a regional canon based upon Natural Law & Rights. It proved so powerful its Constitution and Bill of Rights became the model for all universal rights theorists. Yet the problem with universal law regimes is that should they become corrupt, the entire world would become infected and tyrannical, without any potential respite except for armed insurrection.

L. Afterlife

The idea of a heaven and hell were not originally in the minds of the earliest Romans. Instead, a life inside the grave was imagined, explaining inclusion of various everyday implements, according to Numa Denis Fustel De Coulanges in The Ancient City. Instead, it was thought corpses still had some level of awareness in the grave. Only later was it conceived that underground spirits joined in a giant cavern where they resided together. But there was no belief that good people went to a heaven, whereas as the evil went to hell.

In modern America, belief in a Christian heaven and hell is increasingly unpopular with many believing just in heaven, whereas many others believe the “soul” is annihilated after death. This is no coincidence, but in an increasingly perverse and irreligious populace where many cling only to the barest outlines of Christianity, it is certain that those who abandon traditional morality also abandon orthodox theology on the afterlife.

M. Property Rights

One of the current fascinations in American society is the idea of wealth redistribution. This well-suits the welfare of ancient Rome and its grain dole. Further, despite the idea of private property, there was no well-established right of such. This is because the city, the most common authority in antiquity, was seen as representing the group, and no individual rights theory existed at this time. Therefore, the city could confiscate private property if it saw need to.

The medieval debate over private property between the Franciscans and the Pope was used by William of Ockham to argue that individuals had a non-negotiable right to property ownership. This became a foundational Natural Law and Rights argument. John Locke famously argued for a complete defense of private property, which along with the rule of law, made America’s prosperity possible. Yet, now we are on the verge of giving up even this fundamental right which will almost certainly lead to America collapsing economically.


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It has been so for many years now and getting worse!



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Almost a year has gone by since you posted this

We can see as of today how far and widespread this has become


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Almost a year has gone by since you posted this

We can see as of today how far and widespread this has become



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Salt, Oil an Wine wrote:
Almost a year has gone by since you posted this

We can see as of today how far and widespread this has become

Sad but true "TS" Yes it has... :"(

it seems that islam is being pushed harder and stronger than any other faith ..its reported that mexicans are converting to islam.. and nations around the world are being infitrated by the faith of islam.. like russia,france, poland,even england and they have areas posted off limits to the citizens there saying its for their own safety.. imo when any part of a nation is not safe from foreigners its been invaded by their enemy and that is an act of war..
I read some time back that there is a 100 mile strip and 80 miles inside AZ . that obama had posted against US Citizens using the same excuse its for their own safety .. When did America writ a Bill against its own citizens to turn over land to their enemy ...
Its my thinking that the drug cartel are none other than muslim converts/recruits gathering there to train and recruit more mexicans as they come into that part of AZ. and I don't doubt they are selling drugs and I don't doubt for one minute its to buy guns, support and fund the new muslim recruits for the muslim brotherhood



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I. The Drift of Modern American Public Policy & Societal Mores

Paganism therefore rejects biblical revelation of the One God, and an objective definition of truth—replacing it with a regime of superstition, earth worship, polytheism, and radical humanism. The latter is the replacement of any traditional Western idea of religion with rank secularism, however that might attain. An example of the latter would be Marxism with its savage embargo of God, which replaced tradition with a comically inept reign of humanistic pseudo-science, totally rejecting constitutionalism, natural law, and human rights.


I suppose (know, actually) that there is a danger in having freedom to worship as we please. Not only does that allow the one true God to be known, but it also allows all other beliefs to be brought in. And this does pollute and corrupt if it goes unchecked. Of course, God gives us the freedom of choice. In essence we are not only choosing to believe or not to believe His every Word, but we are also choosing our afterlife…our life after death. And it is solely our choice. No blame can be laid on God that someone chooses unwisely.

The irony is that the pilgrims landed here in what was to become America to escape Catholicism (and who knows what else). And now look at us. We've sure come a long way from what those first Americans were. We can look down through American history alone and see many of the mistakes (after they've been made) that our forefathers made at the time and later on.

We've now a drug infested society (only one of countless ills) that reaches its tentacles to even affect children in grade school. Our laws made to battle the evil that goes on in every walk of life seem to go awry every time…because many upholding those laws don't know a thing about the one true God. The spiritual battle goes on…and on and on. And will until the Lord returns for us all.

The paragraph that I saved from the long quote is so true today…right now! We have a president who is making a fairly successful attempt at destroying the America we know. He's changing the constitution…taking away even our God-given rights. We believers are becoming and have become the 'bad guys'. And whether we see the results of this up close, you can be sure our children and grandchildren will long (we can't know when the Lord will come for all His believers) after we've gone to our reward. We not begun to really suffer yet, but it is coming. You can see it by just reading daily headlines to a certain extent.

And the top paragraph describes what Obama is doing to a Tee. And what he continues to do. Is he getting away with it? Well, it appears so,because he has surrounded himself with a bunch of people who really don't care about America any more than he does. He has lied repeatedly to the American people. And anyone who wants to look into anything he has said some time ago, will find that he no longer backs what he has formerly said. For instance, he said time and again that this new health care thingy he's brought forward will still allow us to keep our present insurances. Not true. The truth is now coming out and it's very ugly what is happening. Only God knows where all this fiasco will eventually lead.

However, Obama must face an almighty God at some point in the future to give an accounting of himself. So, he really isn't getting away with anything.

I can only say that I pray that many somebody's eyes will be opened at the White House before it is too late. And by that I mean that God's Word will play a very large part in opening their eyes and hearts to what they've sanctioned to happen in our government. The way it is, it is no longer by the people, of the people and for the people. Consideration for us is totally out of the picture now. The present government is all about power, Socialism, and greed. And the bad guys are pushing this to the max.

I guess I've said more than enough. I'm sure everyone does not agree with me, but I didn't put this here to be agreed with 100%. All of us have our own experiences and see what we are able to see about what is going on. We can't know everything that goes on behind the scenes, but it does have a way of leaking out into the public domain. There's only one thing I'm sure about and that is how God has to be grieving about the world condition more than we can ever understand or grasp. He loves us so much and He gave His all for us.

I'll be so glad to hear His shout, the trump and the voice of the archangel.

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It has been so for many years now and getting worse!

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I would say so due to the fact that so many people seem to have shifted from worshiping a God to worshiping the Earth, as well as their own bodies. Look at how celebrities have helped push this evil movement. Veganism not for health reasons but because they basically value animals over humans, recycling not because it's the right thing to do but because we owe it to Mother Earth, yoga not for health reasons but to gain inner peace, I could go on and on giving examples.


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I would say so due to the fact that so many people seem to have shifted from worshiping a God to worshiping the Earth, as well as their own bodies. Look at how celebrities have helped push this evil movement. Veganism not for health reasons but because they basically value animals over humans, recycling not because it's the right thing to do but because we owe it to Mother Earth, yoga not for health reasons but to gain inner peace, I could go on and on giving examples.


When a person is not grounded in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, chaotic beliefs, evil governments, loose morals, the murder of innocents (abortion), etc. are all the result of Satan's hold over the masses. And we can safely say that what atrocities Hitler and his minions accomplished against the Jews is likely no worse in God's eyes than the slaughter of innocent, unborn babes. This alone shows the depravity of lost souls who perpetuate this great sin/evil of legalized murder. No different than what Hitler did…and the number of abortions has way outdistanced that of the holocaust, which does not detract the weight of the evil done to God's chosen.

Good post, Michaellee. Something we could all go on and on about…and in great depth!


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Yes, the whole abortion movement is disturbing and saddening. I think the church should be a loud voice against it, but also to support the mothers. The church should be so outspoken against abortion that it silences everyone who's trying to say it's "ok" because it is NOT and it's been shown to affect the mother for life because of getting one.


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Yes, the whole abortion movement is disturbing and saddening. I think the church should be a loud voice against it, but also to support the mothers. The church should be so outspoken against abortion that it silences everyone who's trying to say it's "ok" because it is NOT and it's been shown to affect the mother for life because of getting one.


I couldn't say the number of women who have abortions, but I read some time ago that many become unable to have children once an abortion is performed. And to my way of thinking, it kinda serves them right for taking an innocent life to begin with. What would prevent them from getting another abortion if they got pregnant again? I know and understand there are circumstances that would require an abortion…perhaps to save the mother's life, or if she has been raped and couldn't live with having that babe…altho I would rethink that because the baby is actually innocent. However, if heavy drug usage is involved, the baby can be born lacking in many areas conducive to living a fruitful life. This happened to a niece of mine and she went on to have the child, who was almost a vegetable. This is not the case, however, in the multitude of abortions that are performed. We are living in a permissive society where living together without being married, etc. is no longer frowned upon by the majority. There are very few pure young people anymore in our schools and colleges. I congratulate those who save themselves for their future wedded mates.



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Yes, the whole abortion movement is disturbing and saddening. I think the church should be a loud voice against it, but also to support the mothers. The church should be so outspoken against abortion that it silences everyone who's trying to say it's "ok" because it is NOT and it's been shown to affect the mother for life because of getting one.

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Michael, I have over the years counselled and ministered to women who had or considered abortion. Nearly all would tell you what a horrible mistake they have made and live with guilt. The consequences are also great! Women who have had abortions have female problems and health issues from them. The church of today still mention them every once in a while, but most just like sin of homosexuality and other things that people have become so tolerant to have no place in the modern social and entertainment driven churches!
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I've talked with women who've had abortions before as well. They were really sad even many years after the fact and had various mental health issues. I think it would help the pro life movement to have commercials showing these women. They are the true faces of abortion, not the young women who get them for selfish reasons not thinking about the emotional consequences.


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I would say so due to the fact that so many people seem to have shifted from worshiping a God to worshiping the Earth, as well as their own bodies. Look at how celebrities have helped push this evil movement. Veganism not for health reasons but because they basically value animals over humans, recycling not because it's the right thing to do but because we owe it to Mother Earth, yoga not for health reasons but to gain inner peace, I could go on and on giving examples.



America has drifted far from the America our founders and framers founded for the Glory of God and each generation becomes less God fearing and therefore they choose leaders whose character reflects that of their own.
Sharing an article thats asks if America's founders were diest and infidels but most of America's leaders are .
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