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by **Remnant** » 01 Sep 2011, 17:17

1.Speaking in Tongues is not proof of Salvation

There is a popular heresy circulating in churches today, which claims that speaking-in-tongues is a necessary proof of salvation. Of course, no such teaching is taught anywhere in the Word of God.

On the contrary, the Bible teaches in Romans 8:16, “The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God.” It is the Holy Spirit which comes to indwell (live) within every believer at the moment of salvation, that bears witness with our spirit that we are saved.

Ephesians 1:13 tell us,

In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,

We are sealed by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit upon the moment of belief; and we do not need to seek for any further proof of our salvation, such as the “speaking in tongues.” We need no greater assurance than is found in God's Word. John 3:16 promises that if we believe in Jesus Christ we have, right now! eternal life. Also see 1 John 5:13

2.Works is not Salvation and that includes Water Baptism.

Twice as many verses mention grace/faith/belief/trust without water baptism than verses that mention baptism. Other verses mention belief without water baptism: Luke 7:50; John 2:11, 23; John 4:39, 41; John 7:38-39; John 8:30-32; John 9:35-36; John 10:42; John 11:45, 48; John 12:11, 42-44; John 14:1, 12; John 20:31; Acts 14:23; Acts 20:21; Romans 15:13; Philippians 1:29; Titus 3:8. Did the authors miss the opportunity to mention baptism in these many passages if it is so important?

Many of the above verses use the language “whosoever” (King James) or “whoever” or “everyone” who believes. This language is all-encompassing. That is, by the language of the text nothing else is required for salvation except faith. Thus, in addition to not mentioning water baptism, the all-encompassing language of whoever precludes other requirements. SO HERE WE HAVE THE THESIS OF SALVATION BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH DEMONSTRATED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

Further, many verses specifically preclude works as a way to salvation: Acts 13:39; Romans 3:20, 28; Galatians 2:15-17; Ephesians 2:9; 2 Timothy 1:9; Titus 3:5; Philippians 3:8-9 (“everything”), etc. Others say that we cannot boast before God—a similar concept (Romans 3:27; 1 Corinthians 1:29). Note: while some of these passages could be construed to mean we are not saved by the Law of Moses—the Old Testament law— leaving open that other works (“laws of Christ”) are necessary for salvation. However, others clarify that “works” are any works. See Romans 3:27 (“boasting”); Galatians 2:21 (“nothing”), Galatians 3:21-22 (“if a law”); Galatians 3:25 (no longer a guardian law); Titus 3:5. And please consider Romans 13:10 in Young's Literal Translation: "Love therefore is the fulness of law." Note that in the Greek there is no "the" in front of "law," making law a general term and not a reference to Old Testament law. So Paul is making a general case that we are not saved by works of any kind. Jesus himself explains in John 6:27-29 that the “work” we must do is to believe. Thus we are not saved by what we do; we cannot get to heaven by what we do. HERE WE HAVE THE THESIS OF GRACE THROUGH FAITH DEMONSTRATED IN THE NEGATIVE.

36. Baptism in the Bible typically follows one’s saving faith as an act of obedience after being saved.

Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.

In this day and time their are many substitutes for salvation.

Beware, Be warned and Be Ready!

by **Carmela** » 02 Sep 2011, 05:45

AMEN, Frank. . . a much needed post for today. As a pentacostal myself, I am sick over the way others have not been able to recognize satan's counterfeit movement within this realm of Christianity. The real is barely recognizable anymore.

by **Jon-Marc** » 02 Sep 2011, 13:06

Jesus did ALL that necessary for our salvation. There is NOTHING we need to do except to accept His free gift that has purchased and FULLY paid for in the death, burial, and resurrection of His only begotten Son, the Lamb of God. Yet, many have been fooled by the devil into believing that they have to add to what God had done. Even many claiming to be Christians believe that works and other things we can do are necessary for salvation, and they overlook the words "It is the gift of God" in Ephesians 2:8, and "Not of works" in Ephesians 2:9. How much clearer can God make it that we can do NOTHING that would be good enough to obtain righteousness, forgiveness, and salvation?

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