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What an outrage!! This guy needs to be stopped. Why aren't we hearing prominant Christians speaking out against this?

Carmela wrote:What an outrage!! This guy needs to be stopped. Why aren't we hearing prominant Christians speaking out against this?

Bottom line is the allmighty buck. Most won't say a word because they will suffer loss in the offering plate because so many are blind to the truth. They have become modern day Prifit$ looking for the money. To quote the line from that Jerry Meguire movie GIVE ME THE MONEY is their battel cry now.

This really is quite sad! It is definitely outrageous, and I would be quite interested to know how much these Hollywood rejects receive per performance! I also wonder how many of them have ended up physically hurt?

I visit a few other forums that are supose to be Christian forums and one in perticular reprimanded me for exposing or speaking out against Todd Bentley. They even threaten to ban me! After a few PMS and sharing scripture with the moderators about the falsehood, they still took the stand that they had strict rules that says that no one is allowed to demean another brother or sister. Yet that type of thing goes on all the time on this perticular forum.

I believe they singled me out because of this forum!

Here is the scripture that I shared with them about what the word tells us to do and especially as a pastor and elder.
Titus 1:9-19
9.Holding fast the faithful word as he has been taught, that he may be able, by sound doctrine, both to exhort and convict those who contradict.

10 For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision,

11 whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole households, teaching things which they ought not, for the sake of dishonest gain.
12 One of them, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.”

13 This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith,
14 not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn from the truth.

15 To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled.

16 They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work.

Of course they totally ignored these scriptures and they don't even have an apologetics thread or an apostasy thread no do they allow any political discussions.

This is your typical mindset of the majority of Christian thinking in this world. As long as we don't speak out against false hood or corruption in this world eventually God will take care of that and it is not up to us to judge!

According to the scripture read at the first of the video, it appeared to me like they were all unawares letting demons come into them and possess them. I don't think it looked like acting necessarily. This guy looks like he is possessed himself and has given himself over to his guide and allowed all sorts of evil spirits into his life.

It looks like to me, by going up for "prayer" or "deliverence," you could be opening your life up to anything from this "preacher" and it probably gives you a thrill like a bolt of electricity. It's really scarey and I don't doubt the evil spirits have blinded even some Christians to it.

This is getting more and more insane and ignorant every day. Geez! Now I know what our Savior will be talking about when He says "I never knew you".

Praise God for you Frank!! Praise God that you stand for what is right before the Lord! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!

The following is from a email I subscribe to and is interesting concerning
this Todd Bentley, especially for those who can't get the videos to work.

Joseph R. Chambers
jrc@pawcreek.org


Todd Bentley & His God From the Zoo
The Antichrist spirit has moved to the frontline in preparation for his appearance following the Rapture.

The general population’s concept of God had to be altered in order for Satan to become the god of this earth. God’s Word affirms that the entire world will actually worship the devil as God. That cannot happen without a concept of God with which the masses can identify.

A Biblical view of God does not allow one degree of change. It would be impossible to move from a fundamental Biblical concept to an acceptance of a Satan-god concept without the present slow, but powerful debriefing of all things Biblical.

Every part of our emerging church world is guilty to some degree for this subtle change.

The Bible never debates the sovereign facts of our great God; they simply fill the Scriptures. From the spoken words of creation to the transcending picture of our God in the Book of Revelation, He is awesome, He is holy, and He is the finality of perfect love. He said, “I change not” (Malachi 3:6).

There is no measure of change in Him. His purity cannot be defiled and His majesty cannot be compared for He alone is the plumb line of all things.

But every concept of God is undergoing a transformation. Todd Bentley is only one part of what is happening, but he presents a perfect example of what I am contending.

He presents a picture of the Sovereign God that cleverly reduces Him to a zoo-like character. If Todd Bentley’s god is Jehovah God, then the Bible is a fool’s imagination.

I declare to you that Todd Bentley’s god is the devil himself and that he is making preparation to be worshipped by the world. Such a statement is too vast to be taken lightly and too serious to be ignored.

If Todd Bentley’s god is the devil, then two things are absolutely overwhelming.

One is that multitudes of the church world are perfectly ready to make the move from a pre-Rapture state to a post-Rapture fact.

Millions of the world’s churchgoers, especially Charismatics, but including both Catholics and Evangelicals, have fallen in lockstep with this tattooed phenomena.

He has exceeded every expression of the modern day revivals of my lifetime.
In a matter of weeks he has had the greatest success of the modern day religious hype to capture both television and Internet.

The man is nothing less than a phenomenon. The biggest names in the Charistmatic world, beginning with Peter Wagner, Rick Joyner, and John Arnott, just met to anoint Todd Bentley as prophet par excellent.

Second, everything about Todd Bentley is pre-Antichrist revelation. He fits the perfect image that Scripture demands of this second beast in Revelation chapter thirteen.

He claims Jesus is Christ, but totally re-invents Him. The person of Christ in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John has no likeness to Todd Bentley’s “Jesus.”

When Jesus healed, he said, “Tell no man.” Todd Bentley spends the majority of his time performing signs and wonders that exalt him beyond recognition.

No one standing in the presence of the Son of God ever reacted like an insane person without Jesus calling such action the “work of demons.” Todd’s Jesus is a masquerading spirit from the abyss.

Let’s look at this zoological god of Todd Bentley. His god has commissioned angels to work hand-in-hand with the prophet. They move in and out with Mr. Bentley to impart this strange anointing and to multiply incredible signs and wonders.

The last count of the unconfirmed resurrections is near twenty or more.

A leading angel is named Emma, who has a great history in Charismatic circles. She dates back at least to William Branham, a Jesus-only minister, who was killed about forty years ago.

Emma floats into the meetings and distributes gold dust on the attendees. One minister’s wife got Emma’s impartation and began to bark like a dog. According to the prophet, Emma appears as an angel of light.

Todd’s god loves to see his worshippers having epileptic-like seizures, screaming incoherent babble, and acting like a spirit has cast them into the fire.

They even call the action that grips the people the fire and it is, but it is not the fire of the Holy Spirit baptism.
The violence of this god causes his prophet to kick the sick or slam the suffering with a dark force to drive out the disease.

This fits perfectly with the demonic healing found in the world of witchdoctors.

Here is a description of the normal activity seen in a Bentley worship service. This comes from an eyewitness account.

“These are the effects that I have witnessed on people who have attended this movement and either have had hands laid on them or claim to have been imparted with 'the spirit': -

They come back with this kind of childlike drunken stupor. -Descriptions of a burning sensation either in their veins, heads or stomachs. -Descriptions of being washed back and forth like the waves in the ocean;-Dancing about like drunk...-Inappropriate yelling and screaming like they're at a football game;-

Young men whistling over and over and holding their heads and claiming that they 'feel the Holy Spirit about to split them in two';

-One young man's back two teeth turned completely to some metallic finish.-People with their eyes rolled in the back of their heads and weaving around like they're lost.-

Women just gyrating and pulsating like they' re being ravaged from behind from some unseen force.
-Drunken uncontrollable laughter in the middle of a solemn prayer time…-People being 'slain in the spirit'... just falling down and being unable to move (like something's holding them down).” (www.apostasyalert.org/REFLECTIONS/bentley.htm)

The flesh of both Todd Bentley, his helpers, and the crowds that relish his meeting is dominant.

From Genesis to Revelation, the Bible forbids an anointing upon flesh. The Holy Spirit only anoints the life that is fully identified with Jesus Christ. The oil of the First Testament anointing presents the perfect type of an acceptable prophet or priest.

The Word stated, “Upon man's flesh shall it not be poured, neither shall ye make any other like it, after the composition of it: it is holy, and it shall be holy unto you.” “And thou shalt sanctify them, that they may be most holy: whatsoever toucheth them shall be holy” (Exodus 30:32,29).

Our Heavenly Father protects the purity of His anointing. The nephews of Moses were eliminated for offering strange fire in the name of the Lord. Very soon, the same defense of that holy anointing of the Lord will be reinstated.

It will occur similar to the judgment of those nephews of Abraham, Nadab and Abihu.

“And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took either of them his censer, and put fire therein, and put incense thereon, and offered strange fire before the LORD, which he commanded them not.

And there went out fire from the LORD, and devoured them, and they died before the LORD” (Leviticus 10:1-2).

It is an abomination to offer strange fire as is clearly occurring in connection with a host of Charismatics. It is now elevated in the Bentley meetings to a level that reveals the true false nature of this crowd.

The concept of God that the world is now witnessing should warn every one of us of the closeness of His great Rapture.

The saints cannot be here when the actual Antichrist and his final religious mastermind appear. They are held in check while their spirit is quickly developing and spreading.

The actual Antichrist and the False Prophet are being prevented from their public role until the escape of the Bride of Jesus Christ.

Todd Bentley and his god from the devil’s zoo is a perfect warning to every Bible believer. Every saint of God should refresh his vision of our Heavenly Father.
Consider His awesome person reflected in a glory that fills Holy Scripture. Consider His holiness so pure that He offered His spotless Son to redeem us.
Refuse to be satisfied with an image of God that only reflects flesh and empty faith in some religious titillation. Our great God wants you to know Him in the power of His only Begotten Son and the new life of purity and beauty.

Joseph R. Chambers
jrc@pawcreek.org

Thank you for that article, firstlove.

That forum that Remnant spoke of, doesn't want the truth.

first love. . .I just wanted to thank you again for that article you posted on the 11th. I printed it out and have read it a few times. Then this morning Jeani reminded me that God has sent strong delusion to many that they would believe a lie. I don't understand why He would do that to people who I consider to be strong, godly Christians, but He has and I know that He has His purposes. So, that article helped me to see that the way is being paved for the anti-Christ's appearance.

Love and hugs. . .

After a few PMS and sharing scripture with the moderators about the falsehood, they still took the stand that they had strict rules that says that no one is allowed to demean another brother or sister.

Shame....people like Todd Bentley is not my brother or sister.

Definately NOT your brother or sister, Christy. . . just like you said. These people are spawn of the devil placed here to rob the Church of it's foundation. And apparently alot of the Church are falling for the lie. Praise God for this forum where we can share the truth and see things for what they really are!

Carmela...don't you feel overwhelmingly blessed?? Everyday I see more and more of how precious it is to know that God has hand picked you and set you as His child!!! Sends those good chills doesn't it? I cant really put these feelings into words. They are supernatural.