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Obamacare isn't good, especially for seniors

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Obamacare isn't good, especially for seniors

Postby janlyn » 22 Jan 2012, 00:49

"While Congress debated Obamacare, talk about death panels and rationing of healthcare services abounded, but the warnings came from Republicans who were in the minority in the House and the Senate. Their objections were dismissed out of hand. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority leader Harry Reid rounded up Democrat votes and shoved Obamacare down our throats with the blessing of President Obama. The jury is still out on the legality of Obamacare, but while we wait for the courts to rule on the constitutional issues involved, the Obama administration is rapidly implementing the program. By the time the courts finally reach a decision, our healthcare system won't resemble what we had prior to March 2010 when Nancy Pelosi used her oversized gavel to pound Obamacare through the House over strenuous objections from most Americans.

"Our senior citizens are most at risk under Obamacare -- especially those over 70. Rationing of services and death panels (only they're called "ethics panels" under Obamacare instead of death panels for obvious reasons) are now the rule, not the exception. I have a friend who is a loyal Democrat and a strong Obama supporter. In 2008 when she voted for Obama, she couldn't imagine that in 2012 she would have a massive heart attack and need a pacemaker. Prior to 2010 and the passage of Obamacare, that would have been a routine procedure, but not anymore. She's over 70, and under Obamacare people who are over 70 routinely receive "comfort care." That's a euphemism. It means that a panel of experts has determined that your life isn't worth saving beyond 70, so they will try to make you feel good while you die."


Read the whole article here: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/201 ... niors.html
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Re: Obamacare isn't good, especially for seniors

Postby Remnant » 22 Jan 2012, 17:08

She's over 70, and under Obamacare people who are over 70 routinely receive "comfort care." That's a euphemism. It means that a panel of experts has determined that your life isn't worth saving beyond 70, so they will try to make you feel good while you die."


This is happening among people in their 50's and 60's!
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Re: Obamacare isn't good, especially for seniors

Postby Jeani » 22 Jan 2012, 18:43

We just have to keep 'praying' for Obamacare to be overturned,and vote for someone who is 'against' Obamacare...

This is the 'works of Hilter' under the 'works of Satan.'

Give immigrants and illegals 'instant, free' medical care,and let our old Americans died...
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Re: Obamacare isn't good, especially for seniors

Postby janlyn » 22 Jan 2012, 23:31

Today I read about a little pre-schooler who was denied a kidney transplant because she is mentally retarded, even though the kidney would come from a family member. Unfortunately, many people who commented on the story feel that the decision to deny the little girl a kidney was the right one because she can't live a long and normal life anyway. Our society has become very hardened as 80% of the handicapped/disabled fetuses are aborted. God has much to teach us through our care of the elderly and disabled, but humans want to discard those who are not seen as useful.
http://wilton.patch.com/articles/mental ... ey-for-you

In 2010 and 2011 my son had a deep brain stimulator placed on each side of his brain to help control debilitating tremors. To be honest, I was surprised that the surgeon so readily agreed to the surgery because my son is like a 9 year old in a crippled man's body. But everyone at the hospital (University Medical Center Omaha) treated him with the utmost care and respect. Praise the Lord.

Many years ago, my mother said that she thought my son would be better off dead but my son has been instrumental in shaping the kind of person I am. The kind of person God wants me to be. My son is very useful to God.
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Re: Obamacare isn't good, especially for seniors

Postby Remnant » 23 Jan 2012, 00:07

My son is very useful to God.

:cam He is also useful to man and our society!
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Re: Obamacare isn't good, especially for seniors

Postby Carmela » 23 Jan 2012, 06:22

Amen, Lynda. Your son's life is precious before the Lord and no death panel can take that away!
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Re: Obamacare isn't good, especially for seniors

Postby elect777 » 28 Jan 2012, 22:42

The obama-ration will affect many first they will start with elderly,then mental-handicap,then physical-handicap then the uneducated and poor...care will depend on age,health,education,wealth and title(status) Those in goverment and their families will not have a waiting time to be seen and recieve care by a Physician..
With one size fits all ,it will spread the healthcare very thin,not to mention Older Doctor's who say they will retire and Nurses also... Young Doctor's and Nurses say they will quick and take another career..God fearing and those with moral conviction's will not take part in abortion's of life including giving elderly,mental and or physical disabled a pill or shot to end their life all because a panel of 15 Non-Medical appointees deside who will and will not recieve medical treatment/care .. these people are not elected by the people and neither will they answer to either House ..they are like czars..People Congress as given 21 things they could do and forcing health-snare on a free people was not one of them,however obama has found away around Congress by ignoring them and the people they represent..obama acts on his own and ignores Spreme Court as well... why wouldn't he ,knowing they are the ones that said "no one cares if obama not a citizen."..If obama is allowed to do this evil act and it is evil he does not have the interest of the people in mind but his own agenda "Depopulation" and using fokes like ilegal's to do it and they are not the wiser,its about coning fokes to get their support/votes he preys on the elderly ,ill health and poor when they serve their purpose he will have them done away with... hitler was an evil man,i think obama twice as evil ..We must call ,sign petitions to stop this man if IPAB is passed it will null both our Declaration of Independence and Constitution we will be subject to World Court's and W.H.O. and UN Army and everything else that one size fits all..spread the wealth and health... Guess what ..right now us old fokes have a new man heading SS his name is Henry J Aaron ,this man favor's HEALTHCARE RATIONING .. "American's will have to do what British have done ..RATION some types of costly medical care ..Aaron strongly supports IPAB... I heard/understood what obama was saying when he spoke of funds being wasted ..I know obama speaks with a messsage in a message..obama was not concerned about funds being misused or abused..he wants to stop lab tests X-Rays ,scan's etc on old fokes and those with mental and physical condition's that are ir-reversable he consider's that a waste of funds..also he consider's hip and knee replacements a wast of fund's on these fokes,also any other Organ transplants including Heart... I head him complain that his Grand-Mother wasted money/funds because she had a hip-transplant at her age..I heard him tell a lady at one of the TownHall meetings that her Grand Mother would have been better off taking the pill instead of having a Heart transplant obamas message was clear there will be no wasting /using of health funds on old fokes they should just take the PILL ,I suppose sence those with Physical and Mental conditition's that can't be cured that would be a waste of funds... this Heal-Snare-Scam is going INTERNATIONAL Read the plans on UN link for world .. obama's health-ration will not reduse costs even giving old and ill the Pill... it will cost more it will affect those now on Company Health Plan..it will no longer exist and Companies will not join obama's health-scam they have said they will pay the $2,000 fine for every employee they have and lose any kickback promised because it will be cheaper for them than obama-care... This could very well push more Companies out of business..obama is a very evil man..to bring a strong nation under world power you first bring it down and obama is off to a domino start ,starting while he was still organizer for ACORN forcing Banks to make loans to fokes he KNEW could not afford to make payments I heard that 80% Bank loan's were illegal's Bill Clinton did this same thing and them told Banks to raise interest rates as high as they wanted...Bill Clinton also robbed SS to make fokes think he established a surplus...there was no surplus and he raised taxes on SS ... anyway we have Bill Clinton,obama and Frank/Dodd well the Socialist Democrats for where we are now... and obama is not finished with what he started...
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