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My taste of Apologetis with Liberty University

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My taste of Apologetis with Liberty University

Postby JWayne » 01 Oct 2011, 21:37

Thought maybe everyone would like to see what school has me doing and partly why my time has been so limited here...


What are the biggest misconceptions of Christianity today? As we draw nearer and nearer to Christ’s return many tend to see it as being judgmental and hateful as is well evidenced by those who are ardent followers of sexual immorality, especially those in the ‘gay realm’. As we know, the bible condemns sexual immorality, especially homosexuality (Romans 1:26-27), in my opinion, these use it merely as a tool by which it attempts to change others mind and makes it more accepted or at least tolerated. All that is being accomplished is they are simply fueling the fire.

What are some specific moral reasons people reject Christ? As for reasons many morally reject Christianity, we can see that it is believed that there is no genuine proof that it is true. What is sad in this is that it appears that many are simply too lazy to do the research themselves. They see it easier to make that decision without all the ground work. For those who may listen to what the ‘preachers’ have to say, they appear to believe they themselves do not know the true meaning of the lessons they give.

What are some specific emotional reasons people reject Christ? I guess the reason that would stand out the most to me would be, people just do not care if they are doomed, they are absent of passion, emotion, or excitement (Define apathy, 2011). Another reason which stands out is that many are not willing to admit that there is a ‘higher being’ to which they must be accountable to (Achieving Your Savings Goal, 2001). We can see a great lack of commitment; four out of five self identified Christian adults (81%) say there commitment is still important today (The Barna Group, 2011).

What are some specific intellectual reasons people reject Christ? The only thing I can think of at the time that would even come close to answering this question would be that intellect has gone to the dogs. Man does not seem to be able to think for themselves anymore. Not only have people become physically lazy the mind seems to be on sabbatical. They are simply more interested in what the world provides than what God provides. Man is so easily influenced by evil and the void promises it gives.

What can Christians do to address these objections and better communicate the Gospel? There is absolutely no better way to say it than they need a fire lit under them to remind them why they are His children and to do as we are told in Matthew 28:19. We need to ‘suck it up’ get off our lazy behinds, and take God seriously. We made a choice to follow Him, and in accepting His gift, we claimed we would do His bidding.

The Bible (New King James Version)

Achieving Your Savings Goal. (2001, April 12). Retrieved September 17, 2011, from http://www.armoursanswers.com: http://www.armoursanswers.com/Why%20Do% ... Christ.htm

Define apathy. (2011). Retrieved September 17, 2011, from Find the meaning and definition of words: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/apathy

The Barna Group. (2011, September 13). Retrieved September 17, 2011, from http://www.barna.org: http://www.barna.org/faith-spirituality ... tual-depth


Then today an added surprise from my professor ...

John Clark, thank you for your charge to Christians! We do indeed need to step it up as you wrote. Since you have, as you mentioned, "sucked it up and gotten off your lazy behind," can you please go a little further and help the class out by showing a way that we address some atheistic objections. Can you please share a specific way to refute a naturalistic argument from a prominent atheists. Pick out a popular argument for the nonexistence of God, and then refute it on the basis of logic. I really appreciate you taking a little more time to demonstrate a philosophical critique. Why does atheistic materialism/naturalism fail?

This professor has not made one comment till this and I am the only one of 12 he has addressed on our discussion board. I guess it wasn't too bad, I made a 92. Bad thing, I have no idea what I've done wrong. Oh well, I hope you all enjoyed.
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Re: My taste of Apologetis with Liberty University

Postby Carmela » 02 Oct 2011, 08:19

Congrats, Wayne. Looks like you're doing really well. When your prof asked you to "share a specific way to refute a naturalistic argument from a prominent atheists. Pick out a popular argument for the nonexistence of God, and then refute it on the basis of logic. I really appreciate you taking a little more time to demonstrate a philosophical critique. Why does atheistic materialism/naturalism fail?", my brain went WHAT?????? HAHAHAHHAHA!! Make sure that you share your answer with us as well.
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Re: My taste of Apologetis with Liberty University

Postby Remnant » 02 Oct 2011, 15:57

This professor has not made one comment till this and I am the only one of 12 he has addressed on our discussion board. I guess it wasn't too bad, I made a 92. Bad thing, I have no idea what I've done wrong. Oh well, I hope you all enjoyed.


This is typical of teachers and professors alike to try and get you to give an answer based upon an actual encounter. One reason is that atheist are the hardest people to witness too. If you can not prove literally that God exist then they will not accept it.

When dealing with an atheist it would be the same as dealing with any lost person. We do not have to prove anything but simply point them to the truth of God through His written word.

I am sure that through prayer and asking for wisdom that the Holy Spirit will give you this answer for the professor.
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Re: My taste of Apologetis with Liberty University

Postby Jeani » 02 Oct 2011, 16:18

Sometimes we're just to 'plant the seed',and let God do the rest...
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Re: My taste of Apologetis with Liberty University

Postby Jannie » 23 Mar 2012, 23:32

Jeani wrote:Sometimes we're just to 'plant the seed',and let God do the rest...


Yes, and sometimes we don't even know we've watered.

Atheists are an interesting group. Most people admit to believing in "God," but they are looking in all the wrong places. Atheists insist they don't believe in God when they actually do.... but refuse to admit it. It's easier to deny God exists than it is to admit He exists, and might want something. It might mean giving something up.

They love self more than the Creator.
They love the darkness more than the light.
So, they are without excuse. ;)

Romans 1:19-21 wrote: Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
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