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by **AHeartofJoye** » 11 Feb 2011, 06:15

Muslim Students in Britain Reportedly Taught to Chop Off Hands of Thieves, Hate Jews
Published February 09, 2011

| FoxNews.com

Islamic schools across Britain are reportedly teaching their students how to cut off thieves’ hands and that Jews are plotting to take over the world.

One textbook given to 15-year-old students outlines physical punishments for violating Shariah law, according to BBC.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/02...#ixzz1Dajliznh
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...f-thieves.html

More:

Brit Muslim kids learning to cut off hands of thieves
By ANI | ANI – Thu, Feb 10 2:53 PM IST

London, Feb.10 (ANI): British Muslim children are being taught how to chop off thieves' hands and being told that Jews are plotting to take over the world at a network of Islamic schools.

According to The Telegraph, nearly 5,000 pupils are attending weekend schools across Britain, and are being exposed to textbooks claiming that some Jews were transformed into pigs and apes, and that some offences could be punished with stoning.

http://in.news.yahoo.com/brit-muslim...12313-428.html

*Why is England being so tolerant of 'Religion of Peace' ...?

by **Remnant** » 19 Feb 2011, 08:52

*Why is England being so tolerant of 'Religion of Peace' ...?

Good question!
Why is America being so tolerant of a Religion of hate that is disguised as a religion of peace?
:umm

by **JWayne** » 19 Feb 2011, 12:28

Why is America being so tolerant of a Religion of hate that is disguised as a religion of peace?

would love to see an answer to this!

by **PandoraBVV** » 19 Feb 2011, 15:31

*Why is England being so tolerant of 'Religion of Peace' ...?

Why is America being so tolerant of a Religion of hate that is disguised as a religion of peace?

Those are both excellent questions.

Britain's Laws are actually much more stringent than our Laws here in the USA are
when it comes to hate speech in the guise of "Religious expression".

The Government there can actually file charges against that Mosque, it's school and
the Administrators and also that teacher and prosecute them for saying those things
and teaching those children why & how to perform those violent acts.

But, under our Laws here in the USA scripture is not classified as hate speech and
it is not criminal to teach the written scriptures of your religion and the tenets of your Religion.

So, What is it that y'all think should be done here in the USA to stop Muslim from
teaching and preaching the written scripture of their ffaith, the Koran and the other Books of Islam?

by **Remnant** » 19 Feb 2011, 17:03

So, What is it that y'all think should be done here in the USA to stop Muslim from
teaching and preaching the written scripture of their ffaith, the Koran and the other Books of Islam?

Hi Pan, I personally think their is enough evidence from the teachings of Islam to prove that they are a danger to our society and way of life. Based on their own Book, the Qur'an.

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.

Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, most of the verses of violence in the Quran are open-ended, meaning that the historical context is not embedded within the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Quran.

Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. This proclivity toward violence - and Muhammad's own martial legacy - has left a trail of blood and tears across world history.

The Quran:
Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah." There is a good case to be made that the textual context of this particular passage is defensive war, even if the historical context was not. However, there are also two worrisome pieces to this verse. The first is that the killing of others is authorized in the event of "persecution" (a qualification that is ambiguous at best). The second is that fighting may persist until "religion is for Allah." The example set by Muhammad is not reassuring.

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding caravans with this verse.

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

More on this subject here:http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm

I believe the door has been open and and cannot be shut now. I do believe that we can still take a stand and not let them or this religion overtake our country. Laws need to be set in order. Our country makes laws about hate crimes. Our law makers should make laws and enforce them at every turn concerning this religion that practices and commits murder based upon their religion.

by **JWayne** » 19 Feb 2011, 20:14

Why would Christianity of any faith allow Muslim or any other false religions to share their faith of worship?

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