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by **Carmela** » 21 Jul 2011, 11:20

by David Wilkerson
[May 19, 1931 - April 27, 2011]

At Times Square Church, we sing a hand-clapping song that goes this way:

Send him on down, Lord, send him on down.

Lord, Let the Holy Ghost come on down.

We need him, Lord, send him on down.

The truth is, the Holy Spirit is already here. He came down from heaven at
Pentecost and he never left!

Jesus promised, “I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another
Comforter, that he many abide with you for ever; even the Spirit of truth; whom
the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye
know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you” (John 14:16-17).
Consider a phrase Jesus uses here: “But you know him.” Recently, as I read
those words, I could not shake them off. I realized I really don’t know much
about the Holy Spirit.

The church talks a lot about the Holy Spirit. We talk about being filled with
the Spirit, living and walking in the Spirit, having the gifts of the Spirit,
receiving the comfort of the Spirit.
Yet it is possible to know all the doctrines of the Holy Spirit and still not
know him. If I were to ask you, “Have you received the Holy Spirit?” how
would you answer?

Some might say, “I received the Spirit when Jesus saved me. It was the Holy
Spirit that brought me into Christ’s kingdom.” Others would answer, “Yes,
I have received the Spirit, because I spoke with tongues when he came into my
life. I pray in the Spirit, and tongues are an evidence that I have received
him.”

However, to receive the Spirit is more than a one-time experience. The word
“receive” means “lay hold of that which is given.” In short, receiving
is to desire an expanding capacity for greater knowledge of who the Spirit is
and what his ministry is about. In fact, the Holy Spirit is not received by
someone until he is allowed to take full control of that person’s temple.

Paul asked the Galatians, “How did you receive the Spirit? Did you not
receive him by faith?” He then declares, “You stated by faith that what you
know of the Spirit you received by faith. So, has there been a continued
‘ministry of the Spirit’ to you by faith? Are you exercising faith to go
deeper in the Spirit?”

by **Remnant** » 21 Jul 2011, 12:36

Whats more important, Does the Holy Spirit Know you?

Does He dwell in you?

Have you received the indwelling Spirit of the Living God in you?

Have you been born again?
John 3:3-5 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
4 Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?”
5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.

Is your body the temple of the residing Holy Spirit.

Are you a brand new creation because of the Holy Spirit?

Are you exercising faith to go deeper in the Spirit?”

This statement I find a little puzzling.

How does one go deeper in the Spirit?

What God wants is more of us! He has given us all that we need through the person of Jesus Christ and the indwelling Spirit of God. Sure, through obedience we can be filled with the Holy Spirit. What does it mean to be filled with the Holy Spirit?

Doe it mean to go deeper into the Spirit or does it mean allowing the fullness of the Indwelling Holy Spirit to operate mare freely in our lives?

by **Carmela** » 21 Jul 2011, 14:13

The way I understood that statement is that since we accepted the Holy Spirit by faith, are we now allowing the Holy Spirit to operate in our lives. Like you said. To me "going deeper into the Spirit" means the same thing as allowing the Holy Spirit to operate more freely in our life. I will have to admit that Wilkerson's wording is strange on that.

by **Remnant** » 21 Jul 2011, 15:22

Carmela wrote:The way I understood that statement is that since we accepted the Holy Spirit by faith, are we now allowing the Holy Spirit to operate in our lives. Like you said. To me "going deeper into the Spirit" means the same thing as allowing the Holy Spirit to operate more freely in our life. I will have to admit that Wilkerson's wording is strange on that.

It brought up red flags and reminded me of something Benny Hinn would have said or one of the books he has written.

by **Carmela** » 21 Jul 2011, 18:07

Oh YUCK!! But I know what you mean, hahaha!!

by **Jeani** » 21 Jul 2011, 21:01

The article stated: “Yes,
I have received the Spirit, because I spoke with tongues when he came into my
life. I pray in the Spirit, and tongues are an evidence that I have received
him.”

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False...false...false teaching...I received the Spirit by what Christ did on the cross for my sins...Adding 'tongues' is pure works to salvation...

It's a pure religious teaching,and not the teaching of the Bible....

The article stated: However, to receive the Spirit is more than a one-time experience.

Upon salvation, receiving the Spirit is ONE TIME...not more than one time experience...

Christ died only ONCE for our sins...

Article stated: Are you exercising faith to go
deeper in the Spirit?”

You can't exercise faith to go DEEPER IN THE SPIRIT...

You receive FAITH upon salvation,and we receive the INDWELLING HOLY SPIRIT...

There's no DEEPER...

by **Carmela** » 22 Jul 2011, 06:33

Yep, I agree. I had understood it to mean that "going deeper" was learning more about the person of the Holy Spirit and allowing Him to work in you. Like I say, the wording is strange now that I think about it.

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