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Blasphemy against Holy Spirit?

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Re: Blasphemy against Holy Spirit?

Postby Jay dub » 18 Jun 2010, 22:53

The only sin that is not unpardonable is unbelief. When one rejects Jesus and never accepts Him and receives Him as Lord and Savior, There is not another chance. That sin is not pardonable.


Hello to all

I agree with the opening post on what blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is, but this statement does not seem to be true to me, if you all believe in post tribulation rapture

If all who have rejected Christ are left behind, aren’t they then given a second chance?

Don’t they now have seven years to repent and turn to Christ? Wouldn’t that be a second chance?

This being my first post, I am struggling to find the right words so I do not break forum rules
Rule #13 I believe said, I can discuss my beliefs but not promote them. How do I discuss my beliefs and not promote them. I am not sure what that means and do not wish to offend anyone


There will always be mysteries that we will never know until we get to heaven. This is one of those areas that might fall into that. The only thing that concerns me is the Salvation issue. Is this altering the Doctrine of salvation in any way?



Isn’t that also true of discussing the timing of the rapture. Will that discussion affect our salvation in anyway?

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Re: Blasphemy against Holy Spirit?

Postby Remnant » 19 Jun 2010, 07:16

Hello Jay, I hope you don't mind me calling you that. First let me say welcome.

To answer your questions, first let me say I always find it odd and a bit strange when the first post that someone makes is of a controversial nature. There is almost 19,000 post and over 5000 topics on this forum. So, that makes me a little cautious. The rules are set up so that these type of differences and argumentative topics will not spiral into division and schisms in the body of Christ.

This being my first post, I am struggling to find the right words so I do not break forum rules
Rule #13 I believe said, I can discuss my beliefs but not promote them. How do I discuss my beliefs and not promote them. I am not sure what that means and do not wish to offend anyone


I must admit, I posted it that way in hopes that one would realize that it would be difficult to do just that. Discussions can be done as long as we are in agreement on basic doctrinal issues. Such as The doctrine of Salvation, The Trinity, Etc. and in love. What I have found out is that most people who adhere to Post or mid tribulation. They also have some disagreements with the essential doctrine of the Christian faith.

There will always be mysteries that we will never know until we get to heaven. This is one of those areas that might fall into that. The only thing that concerns me is the Salvation issue. Is this altering the Doctrine of salvation in any way?

Isn’t that also true of discussing the timing of the rapture. Will that discussion affect our salvation in anyway?


It could! No matter if one is saved before the tribulation or during the tribulation. They are saved by the grace of our Lord and through faith in Jesus Christ. Ephesians 2:8,9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.

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Re: Blasphemy against Holy Spirit?

Postby JWayne » 19 Jun 2010, 08:47

Jay, My belief is that whether it is talking of now, or during the trib, those are the only two "technical" chances being addressed. I posted this as how it pertains to us in our lives, no matter at what point we are at. Our life on earth.

As for rule 13, I believe that to mean that no matter what we discuss, we do so in brotherly love, nothing more nothing less.
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Re: Blasphemy against Holy Spirit?

Postby Servant » 19 Jun 2010, 13:14

The cyclops says to the other cyclops, "I wish you could see things from my perspective." "Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for the Brethren to dwell together in unity."
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Re: Blasphemy against Holy Spirit?

Postby JWayne » 19 Jun 2010, 13:39

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Re: Blasphemy against Holy Spirit?

Postby Jay dub » 19 Jun 2010, 20:22

To answer your questions, first let me say I always find it odd and a bit strange when the first post that someone makes is of a controversial nature. There is almost 19,000 post and over 5000 topics on this forum. So, that makes me a little cautious. The rules are set up so that these type of differences and argumentative topics will not spiral into division and schisms in the body of Christ.


Hello
I came to the forum because of one of your members, This was the first thread I saw with his name. The opening post was not controversial, I had no Idea, that there was a discussions on the rapture inside.

Your post about no second chance stood out to me and is why I asked you as I did

Jay, My belief is that whether it is talking of now, or during the trib, those are the only two "technical" chances being addressed. I posted this as how it pertains to us in our lives, no matter at what point we are at. Our life on earth.

As for rule 13, I believe that to mean that no matter what we discuss, we do so in brotherly love, nothing more nothing less.


I agree with you Wayne, We need to discuss all matters in a loving way, even when we disagree. We are all brothers in Christ, what does it say about us, if we can't speak to one another in love
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Re: Blasphemy against Holy Spirit?

Postby Remnant » 19 Jun 2010, 21:50

Hi Jay, You said:
I came to the forum because of one of your members, This was the first thread I saw with his name. The opening post was not controversial, I had no Idea, that there was a discussions on the rapture inside.


Thanks for the clarification and I am glad that you came. Keep posting!

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